He is the leader of the band of dwarves who want to reclaim his lost kingdom and gold from the dragon, smaug. Aug 24, 2015 the death of thorin, bilbo with tears, beautiful scene. He later gave thorin s gift to bilbo to his nephew, frodo baggins. There is a sense that an entire way of living in the. Thror and thrain thorins father escaped using a secret back door. Learn exactly what happened in this chapter, scene, or section of the hobbit and what it means. Domestic bilbo bagginsthorin oakenshield works archive. What is the dragon spell, and why are dwarves so susceptible to it. Anyway, on lotr wikia, it says the same thing dwalin, bifur, bofur, bombur, gloin, nori and dori were alive, while thorin, fili and kili died in the battle of. Thorin ii oakenshield the one wiki to rule them all fandom. Nov 05, 2015 thorins death speech misses the point in the film the hobbit. Bard is brave enough to be the last man standing in the town and skilled enough to kill smaug with a shot. Bolg is an orc warrior and the son of azog the defiler.
Thorins quote if more people valued home, above gold, this world would be a merrier place, was my favorite in the book. Thorins death was for me the worst part of the movies. Thorin himself only survives due to assistance from legolas, who kills bolg. He is the son of thrain ii, grandson of thror, and becomes king of durins folk during. Jun 23, 20 bilbo is scared, unskilled, and completely out of his element. Bilbo regains consciousness and is carried to thorin, who is dying after having been wounded in the battle. The only full account of the event is tolkiens description of the battle of azanulbizar in appendix a to the lord of the rings. Sixty years after the battle of five armies, bilbo is living peacefully in rivendell having just finished his book. Thorin oakenshield is the deuteragonist of the novel, the hobbit, by j. The young woman hands shakily grasped at the wooden structure and two hands gripped at her clothes to haul her in. The lotr was full of those, but the ones i found from the hobbit were.
Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. Im going to need to revisit thorins death in the full context leading. Nov 05, 2008 thorin, author of four books, and freelance writer for many counterculture websites is a selfdeclared, destroyer of pleasant falsities. His action is so inspiring that dwarves, elves and men rush into the fight with him, forgetting their enmity and forming the first true alliance of the free people in the tale.
Kili, fili, and thorins death in the hobbit yahoo answers. This is a conversation much heavier on exposition in the book. Thorin finally throws down with azog on the edge of a frozen waterfall. I believe he finally gave up his pride as a dwarf and saw the true flaws of his people. There are two completely different versions of his death, in the book and the movie. His death in the the hobbit trilogy was probably more powerful. How many dwarves of thorins ex company were alive during. Bards descent from the people of dalewho lived in peace with thorins ancestors in happier times, before smaugallows him to hear the words of the thrush that communicates bilbos message. Tolkien begins to conclude, thorin oakenshield sees the goodness in bilbo baggins and apprehends the most significant parts of life. Just one chance, just one breath, a hobbit fanfic fanfiction. Even if the rope was still in place they would not be able to all scale it before being attacked. The ending of the book is a beautiful comment on life and how we live.
Jan 22, 20 was there a specific page that the death was on. Thorins background is further elaborated in appendix a of tolkiens 1955 novel the. Yes because of the war of the ring long and metaphorical answer. But he has every right to be, for he has gone through lengths of pain no one else has suffered. Worth beyond measure 50 volume ii, book 1, chapter 12. Filled with emotion and sadness, and it gives thorin that one final moment of redemption for going mad and becoming an ass. Shortly after his death, thorin s spirit travelled to the halls of his ancestors and waited there to be reborn when the world was renewed. During the battle of five armies, thorin attempted to kill the leader of the orcs, named bolg, son of azog. Home next time, though not quite as he left it, in the books last chapter. Thorin oakenshield from book to film scifi and fantasy. Thorins death is a wonderful way of explaining a lot of other things, including how he finally, at the end understands the priority of things and people.
In the published book, the hobbit, the goblins are led by azogs son bolg of the north. Apr 10, 20 in the book its not mentioned whether fili or kili died first or what the others felt in that moment. Thorin s family and a small band of followers wandered homeless for many years. Bilbo baggins has a lot of heart, and this scene displays it better than the book ever did.
Finally, thorin realizes this valuable lesson, but it is too late. The hobbit thorins tragedy december 14, 2014 december 14, 2014 the it countrey justice the hobbit, tolkien the long awaited final instalment of the hobbit trilogy has hit the screens along with the expected fanfare, marketing tieins and the like. Reader is a human on the quest to erebor with the company based on the imagine by thorins magnificentass. Peter jackson, philippa boyens and the other writers of the movie could have chosen to let thorin live. His goal is to regain the arkenstone back from the evil dragon smaug, who has taken over his family home, the lonely mountain.
Nov 17, 20 thorin s death is a wonderful way of explaining a lot of other thing s, including how he finally, at the end understands the priority of things and people. Does bilbos crying over thorins death seem surprising or out of character to you. They are by far the greatest characters in the movie, yet i dont have the heart to read the book since it is to long. But tolkiens original readers were unlikely to be very moved by the deaths of fili and kili. He is visited by an unexpected friend passing through on his way to see his brother and elven lover and finds the stories he wrote down are only part of a much larger picture. Most of her family was whipped out by the vile creature. Its not so much that the curse is inherent as it is that treasure brings out. Thorin was the only dwarf to whom tolkien gave a fully developed personality, and he is also the only one of the dwarf casualties of the battle to receive a death scene. The death of thorin oakenshield in the hobbit by jrr tolkien had a profound impact on me as a kid. But why does the narrator doubt whether you will believe it or not. Bilbo weeps at thorin s death, and feels just about ready to go home. Thorin oakenshield thorin is one of the main characters of the hobbit, the son of thrain and the grandson of thror, the king under the mountain. As he lies on his deathbed, thorin reveals his admiration for bilbo.
This bird informs bilbo and the dwarves of smaugs death, and they rejoice. Thorins halls is one of the major cities in the game, referred to as thorins hall. His death was necessary for the theme of the book to teach that kindness is superior of treasure. At the end of the battle of the five armies, the prominent casualties claimed by the war on the heroes side are thorin oakenshield and his two nephewsheirs fili and kili. Even though thorin has died, his body has been buried at the heart of his grandfathers old kingdom and his people have taken control of the lonely mountain once more. After the battle of the five armies, nobody is dead. Thorin is the descendant of the king under the mountain who lost his throne when smaug came and ousted the dwarves from their home. Thorins sword, orcrist, biter, the goblin cleaver swish. Poppy struggled to release her death grip on bains jacket from how tense her cold muscles. Because the actor powerfully captured the look of death. The moment adds complexity to thorin, showing that even though he often appears haughty and stubborn, he harbors a measure of warmth. He is conscious of his position as son of thrain and grandson of thror, king under the mountain, and mindful of his birthright to the treasure trove guarded by smaug. He is the son of thrain ii, grandson of thror, and becomes king of durins folk during their exile from erebor.
When bilbo finds him on his deathbed, thorin asks forgiveness for his rash anger towards bilbo. The growing conflict over the treasure between dwarves, elves, and men, likely to result in bloodshed, was suddenly averted by the approach of goblin and warg armies, so they instead joined forces to defeat their common enemies in what was later called the battle of the five armies. That said, i enjoyed the resolution that bilbo and thorin had to their relationship, which was prompted by his death. Following the death of thorin, many longbeards move away and the rule of thorins hall falls to the dourhands the clan of dwarves who are slowly corrupted by the dark lord. In the hobbit, thorin oakenshield is a dwarf on a mission. But hes the first to jump to thorins defense, even if it means facing half a dozen mounted orcs by himself. A peaceful setting amongst the vines in beaujolais. Thorin oakenshield had thought hed known rage when his home was beset by smaug. The three deaths mean that the line of thror and thrain is extinguished and the kingship of erebor passes to dain ii ironfoot. Wiping the blood away on her pants so the weapon did not slip from her grip the young. The day after bilbo gives him the arkenstone, bard, the elves, and an old, cloaked man march to the gate of the lonely mountain to greet thorin. The halfbreed took a deep breath and awaited thorins signal before diving under next so none ran into each other on the other side. The two had previously been at odds, but now, when all else falls away, readers see the fairness in thorins heart. But thorin threws bilbo out of erebor and on his journey back to the shire bilbo realizes that hes pregnant.
As a reader, did you feel anything during thorins death scene. Ultimately, thorin died after his battle with bolg. In the movie, thorins death is executed beautifully. Many people have written to us over the last five or so days about a story that has begun circulating around the internet concerning thorin oakenshield and the final hobbit film, the battle of the five armies. The hobbit, or there and back again question about thorin. Being the leader of dwarves, he placed himself at the head of the company that set out to reclaim the treasure. The leader of the thirteen dwarves journeying to the lonely mountain. No, but i dont know what effect he would have had on any other tolkien story lines. In an unexpected journey, he was portrayed by conan stevens, who also played gregor clegane as a nonspeaking cameo. An archive of our own, a project of the organization for transformative works. They ask him if he will bargain with them for some of the treasure. Thorins hall the great hall starting 6 the first gear 7 the second gear 12 the third gear 12 the fourth gear 14 the fifth gear 14 the puzzlevault 15 homesteads of eriador.
In ta 2790, thorin s grandfather thror went to moria intending to reclaim the ancient dwarf realm of khazaddum, but he was slain by the orcleader. So gandalf escorts bilbo back to his old home under the hill with a portion of the treasure and loads of respect from men, elves, and dwarves for his courage and resourcefulness. Whom do we feel loyalty to in this book just the titular hobbit. Thorin ii oakenshield, son of thrain, son of thror, king under the mountain is a fictional character in j. He retains this sense of self throughout the journey until, in chapter 8, he is captured by elves and. Following the death of smaug, the people of laketown asked thorin for a share of the treasure, as they wanted recompense for the destruction of their city, a part of smaugs treasure originating from their former city, and it was a lord of laketown who shot the fatal arrow that killed smaug. Thorin oakenshield in the hobbit, or, there and back again. The moment adds complexity to thorin, showing that even though he often appears haughty and stubborn, he. May 04, 2020 thorin ii third age 2746 2941, also known as thorin oakenshield, was the king of durins folk from t. Dec 19, 2014 thorins burial scenea touching moment in the book is also completely skipped over, although rateliff has hopes that it will appear in the extended homeviewing edition, similar to.
Yet he appears against the sombre background of inevitable death, a death. Thorin was dying, he had been mortally wounded in the battle of five armies. How it should have ended s7 e5 how the battle of the five armies should have ended feat. Thorin,who is on his death bed, is saying this to bilbo asking for his forgiveness for the harsh things he said. He wanted to make his peace with bilbo before he died. The battle of five armies, thorin is mortally wounded after a fierce battle with the goblin azog. Fili and kilis deaths are mentioned almost as an afterthought. When thorin died, he was buried with the arkenstone, and orcrist was returned and laid. Summary and analysis chapter 18 the return journey summary.
That much was clear to closer they drew to erebor and the orcs closed in on them. Born 1971 into a very chaotic childhood, thorin has spent the bulk of his adulthood challenging the status quo and acting as the voice of the underdogs and socially rejected. Thorin s death remained with bilbo baggins for the rest of his life, and remembered his friendship fondly. They are not interested until a wizard confronts them with a map and a key. Upon hearing the news of the death of smaug, thorin fortified the main. In the book and in the movie thorin is portrayed as a mercurial. Although the dwarves try to claim that their journey is to reclaim their heritage, their real motivation is greed. In the hobbit tolkien reimagines the traditional motif of the cursed dragonhoard. They performed menial work to survive, including blacksmithing and coal mining. More important than what the movie leaves out, however, is what it decides to put in, namely the portents that oin has read, and thorins meeting with the. Since we see most things from bilbos point of view it just says. Thorin does not deserve respect or admiration because he did not realize that friendship and merriment is more meaningful than riches. Debunking that hobbit movie rumour about thorin oakenshield. They have spent over a hundred years in the mines working, not trying to reclaim their heritage.
When her wish is granted, will it be all she dreamed of, or will everything fall apart. Even though the halfbreed was terrified she refused to give up. Jan 05, 2015 im not really sure what you mean by avoidable. In the book, as in the film, thorin is the leader of a company of dwarves who embark on a quest to kill a dragon and retrieve their stolen gold, but what separates the film from the book, and what essentially elevates thorins character, is the focus on the motivation behind his quest and a stronger infusion of nobility into that motivation. Smaug left the mannish town of dale in ruins and killed many dwarves who were inside the mountain. This is due to bilbo missing that part of the battle and only learning of the events after all was over. Quotes tagged as thorinoakenshield showing 14 of 4 the eleven king looked sternly upon thorin, when he was brought before him, and asked him many questions. Perfect for acing essays, tests, and quizzes, as well as for writing lesson plans. He has great bravery and integrity, but his love for the treasure that was stolen from him and his people leads him behave stubbornly and selfishly even after he has won it back.
As the grandson of the now tragically deceased lord under the mountain, thorin is a proud. Mar 06, 2020 the death of thorin oakenshield in the hobbit by jrr tolkien had a profound impact on me as a kid. Born 1971 into a very chaotic childhood, thorin has spent the bulk of his adulthood challenging the status quo and acting as. The hobbit, or there and back again question about. Thorin is the leader of the dwarves, and he takes himself very seriously. Peter jackson ruined thorins death speech salt and iron. Since they had no part in thorins decision to doublecross the men of laketown, and since the book gives no indication that he even knew of their deaths. Thorin, son of thrain, son of thror, is the leader of the company of dwarves who go on a quest to get their treasure back from the dragon smaug who destroyed their kingdom under the lonely mountain a couple of generations back. The hobbit, or, there and back again summary shmoop.
The hobbit, or, there and back again quotes shmoop. In the movie, thorin was able to once again have orcrist when legolas saved him by throwing the sword towards the chest of an orc that nearly killed him. Thorin used a broken branch of an oak tree as a shield during the battle of moria, thus being dubbed oakenshield. Of fathers and sons chapter 1, a hobbit fanfic fanfiction. Thorin is the leader of the company of dwarves who aim to reclaim the lonely mountain from smaug the dragon. And at one point in time there even was this lie brought up by a fake news website saying that.
Thorin oakenshield from book to film scifi and fantasy network. Dec 18, 2012 he was anecdotally slain by thorins cousin dain ironfoot. Thorin, author of four books, and freelance writer for many counterculture websites is a selfdeclared, destroyer of pleasant falsities. The flashback of thorin fighting on the misty mountains and balins speech, when gandalf and galadriel were talking one on one, riddles in the dark, bilbo fighting the spider who tried to take the ring, thorin s death, and when gandalf and bilbo were smoking after the battle. However, their rejoicing is shortlived, as the raven goes on to describe the huge army of humans and elves marching toward them, as well as the suffering of lake towns people, who surely deserve some share of the massive treasure in the mountain. In the book, thorin repents his pridefulness and makes a sacrifical charge as a last gasp attempt to turn the battle. Thorin oakenshield is a stubborn, hardheaded, completely infuriating dwarf. Jan 28, 2019 thorin s halls is one of the major cities in the game, referred to as thorin s hall. He is a major antagonist in the desolation of smaug and the secondary antagonist of the battle of the five armies.
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